You Must Obey Me…Or Someone
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So I ran into a friend today who has a very different parenting style than my wife and I do. Her son was being a typical little boy who wanted to test boundaries and needed a lot of refocusing. I couldn’t help but notice the fact that she was constantly reminding him to ‘obey’ her. That word felt very uncomfortable to my ears as she wouldn’t release him from time-outs until he promised to ‘obey’ or asked ahead of time if he was going to ‘obey’ the librarian. Aside from ineffective parenting, something was not sitting well with me listening to her. Then I realized that the word ‘obey’ went against many of my personal values and those we have for our family. That got me reflecting on our core family values (not to steal an overly-misused Republican rhetoric phrase) and this is what I came up with.
- Independence. I hope my children grow up to be independent in their thinking, choices and actions. ‘Obey’ implies conformity, which is probably the single biggest violator of our family values. I cannot encourage my children to do what I tell them because I told them to do so. I want them to understand that the universe has consequences and we base our decisions weighing those consequences with the rewards. I do not ‘obey’ the speed limit simply because it is there, I choose not to speed to keep those around me safe and my wallet a little fuller.
- Humor. We laugh a lot in my family and I like to think we are funny people. If we aren’t then please don’t tell us, let us just go on thinking we are. Let’s face it there is nothing funny about the word ‘obey’. In fact in conjures up images of fire and brimstone….again more forced conformity. Or worse yet, I picture Hester Prynne and her Scarlet A. Still not laughing.
- Kindness. I want my kids to grow up to be kind. That is what it is all about (not the Hokey Pokey). Telling your kids they must obey you doesn’t seem very kind. Unless of course they are threatening to run into a busy street. It is not that I think that discipline in general, is unkind, actually it is quite the opposite. Teaching kids right from wrong is the most important thing we do as parents and I think it is semi-abusive to take the ‘oh isn’t it cute how he misbehaves’ approach. That strays into other posts, I digress.
So what do you think of this concept of insisting our children obey us like Moses and the Commandments. What core values does your family have and how do they leak into your everyday life, even your verbiage? Have you noticed anything from friends that really stand out as difficult for you to accept?
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about 2 months ago
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about 2 months ago
Interesting post – According to me ‘Obey’ is a dirty word – If you raise your child to constantly obey you then I think it can kind of kill their creativity, independent thinking (and all those positive things). Having said that, you do want them to listen to you. So I use the term – ‘you need to listen to me’ – rather than obey (sounds like military academy) -
about 6 months ago
“Obey” doesn’t particularly sit well with me either. I think this parent would have been better served to use “respect.” If the kids was acting like a disrespectful turd then that sounds a bit better to my ears. Respect is a big part of our core values as a family. I respect my kids and I expect them to respect me. Such things like not interrupting when someone else is talking, helping when you see someone needs help. Those sorts of thing. But, yeah, not Obey — that connotes a one sided relationship. You are correct. Keen observation!
about 7 months ago
Obey is for the lazy–it’s just easier. Men figured that out centuries ago when they wrote the marriage vows.
about 8 months ago
I agree with most the other commenters that ‘obey’ has some potentially bad connotations. I like your point about realizing there are consequences to actions. That’s what I strive to teach my kids.
If you do x,… y happens. Usually the consequence itself causes the kids to listen, especially when ‘y’ in the equation involves me taking off my belt!
about 8 months ago
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and so are your kids…………:)
about 8 months ago
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about 8 months ago
I’m with you.
I’m all for discipline (in fact I’m constantly surprised at how little most kids seem to get), but I revel in the fact that my older son is so independent (my youngest is just a week old, so his independence will have to wait a while). It occasionally might be easier if he waited for approval on everything he did, but in the long run I know we’re going to have a son that is equipped to make his own decisions and ready to deal with the consequences of those decisions.
Great post.
about 8 months ago
I agree with Jason–obey does seem like something we use for our dog but not our kids! I wonder what the mom would say if you brought this up. I mean does she even realize how it might be making her son feel or what that says about their relationship?
about 8 months ago
Oh, THEY are suppost to obey US? I thought it was the otherway around…
Interesting..
about 8 months ago
I can’t even get my dog to obey me, what chance would I have with my children???
I agree with Smallprint, listening would be a good start…
about 8 months ago
Hey
Obey does seem a little stiff! But I guess it is what they understand by it all and how it was explained to the child – but it does conjure up weird imagery!
From what you say though in terms of the need to reign in his behavior it sounds like the mum in question talks about it a lot but does not explain what she means!
I find myself pleading for my son to “listen” – obey seems to be a higher threshold – listen and then act upon! I would be happy if he would even just listen!
about 8 months ago
Interesting post. I don’t know that I’ve ever used the word obey in a sentence directed toward my children. We use terms like, “you need to listen” or “you aren’t being respectful” and there certainly aren’t any constant reminders to do so. With that said, I don’t know that I have a problem with someone asking their children to obey them. It is the same as asking them to be obedient or do as asked. I see where you’re coming from but also think making obey = conformity is a bit of a stretch.
Thought provoking. Thanks.